Interview with Neville Williams.
The interview was conducted in Indonesia.
Good afternoon Neville and thank you for accepting this interview.
Q. Firstly I would like to ask you, do you own a dog?
A. Yes, in Australia, my business partner and I own more or less 70 dogs.
Q. What kind of dogs do you have in Australia?
A. We are Australia’s largest and longest-serving canine business of our kind; we have GSD’s, Dobermans, Malinios, Labradors, Beagles, Kelpies, Border Collies and Jack Russell Terriers.
Q. Why do you have so many different dogs?
A. We are a commercial operation utilising dogs as a part of our bomb detection business www.detectordogs.com.au the alternative to the detection, is protection, again we’re Australia’s foremost canine capability.
Q Where would you use so many dogs?
A. For the Commonwealth Games held in Melbourne in 2006, we deployed 42 bomb dogs. Additionally, at the time, we held service contracts requiring dogs for general purpose work.
Q. What other types of business do you have in Australia?
A. My partner and I run the Metropolitan Group of Companies whose core business was security.
Q. How long have you been doing this?
A Professionally for thirty-five years
Q. What other business does your group cover?
A. Property Development, Property Management, HR Training, Beef Pastoral Company, Cat Breeding, 150 dog boarding kennels, Dog Breeding, Workshop Seminars on K-9 Genetics/Physiology/Nutrition/Psychology and working service dogs.
Q. Do you train sporting dogs?
A. Training competition dogs is very time-consuming of which I don’t have much off, my love is for working service dogs. My partner Kris helps many people with their canine behavioural problems.
Q. But you train domestic dogs here in Indonesia
Sure, but I do this training here to help local trainers and pet owner handlers to start a regular K-9 training program, this is not my business, in fact, any training I’ve done here with pet dogs I haven’t charged for.
Q. So why do people here know you as a domestic dog trainer?
A. Good question, it’s a misunderstanding of that fine line with the common factor being dogs. My partner Kris once asked me why do I help people? And my immediate answer was, “it’s in my nature”.
Q. So are you a dog trainer?
Q. how long have you been training dogs?
A. Since I can remember
Q. Are you competitive?
A. I am very competitive. I thrive on competition.
Q. Please explain the difference in the type of dog training that you do for a living and how it does not conflict with the domestic pet market.
A. Who we are; Detector Dogs Australia is a specialist canine detection capability originating out of Melbourne Australia.
We are 30 years as market leaders in working and breeding working dogs. Detector Dogs Australia develops and canine teams, within a framework of recognised detection methodologies.
We train and coordinate specialist Rapid Response canine teams from ground zero, we then maintain our service support through continued quality assurance.
Q. What else?
A. Detector Dogs Australia training programs are customised to meet the operational objectives of law enforcement, military, government, corporate and special event security throughout the world.
Our curriculum’s and in-service training offers maximum effectiveness in preparation for unforeseen events.
Q. Now I understand.
A. Thank you
Q. What is your business here in Indonesia?
A. I develop fully Integrated and Commercial Security Systems with a canine component. We are the only one of our kind in Indonesia, and from what I can see, the entire Asia Pacific Region.
Q. When you go to dog breeding and training kennels, and dog shows here in Indonesia, what are you looking for?
A. I’m looking at dogs, and at the same time developing a network of knowledge of who has good dogs, whereby one day I may be able to buy some dogs for a commercial operation.
Q Do you buy many dogs?
A. We just won a contract to supply a regional government police canine department with 50 dogs.
Q. Where do you get 50 dogs from?
A. They will all come from our strategic alliance partner in Holland.
Q. I’ve heard that you can speak dog
A. Dogs understand an international language of like thinkers, if you first learn canine psychology, then adapt that to the conversation you want to have with a dog, in other words, approach the conversation through the perspective of the dog, not a human.
Q. What are some key points in a conversation with a dog compared to a human?
A. Dogs don’t intentionally lie or mislead their peers, they don’t backstab or bicker, a dog’s insecurity is transparent whereas humans try to cover up, dogs also forgive, I prefer dogs to people.
Q. Have you met many good people in the dog world?
A. Absolutely yes, there are more good people than not, I love sitting down to a good conversation with fellow dog people.
Q. What type of dog people do you enjoy talking to?
A. Energetic people who are positive and optimistic about life and who are prepared to share their canine experiences, I love learning new things about dogs and training.
Q. What is your preferred dog?
A. All dogs
Q. What has Indonesia taught you about dogs?
A. More than we have time to put down in this interview, I now use that knowledge in my daily canine activities.
Q. What do you think of our dogs in Indonesia?
A. Impressive; Indonesians have invested a considerable amount into importing world-class bloodlines from around the world, in all breeds of dogs.
Q. Have you seen our government police dogs?
Q. How do they measure up on a world standard?
A. Kalapa Dua Brimob set a very high standard throughout the region; they present as a formidable work-ready canine force.
Q. Have you seen Indonesian Customs dogs?
A. Yes I have, and again they are professionals, Indonesia can be very proud of their government’s law enforcement dog units.
Q. Some trainers here have indicated their concern that you might take business from them.
A. That concern is a gross misunderstanding; my training in the domestic pet market is to help them, not to take their business. I welcome any trainer who holds this concern to call me and discuss their thoughts. I don’t make my living from training in the domestic field. Please understand that I build systems; I do dismantle them.
Q. We hear that your method is to train the owner and not the dog
A. Yes, that’s correct, we can teach the owner/handler to train their dogs. Once the owner understands how to train, then the dog quickly elevates to new levels of behaviour.
Q. How do you know all of this?
A. Thirty-five years in the industry
Q. In simple terms, what advice would you offer the Indonesian dog world?
A. I would like to see the formation of a working dog association under the banner of Perkin, an association with members who uphold values like;
· Respect the dignity of all human beings
· Practice fairness, honesty and integrity
· Respect the autonomy of the individual
· Exercise care and compassion
· Strive for excellence
Q. Respectively, how old are you?
A. Old enough to have been training dogs since before you were born
Q. Would it be ok if we invited dog enthusiasts to a question forum via AnjingKita.com and if you would spare us the time to answer these questions?
A. While I have the time, I’d be pleased to answer some questions.
BS. We want to thank you for this informative interview.
BS. In the second part of the interview, we would like to discuss international working service dogs, Genetics Schutzhund, KNPV and French Ring Sport. Again thank you for your time.
NW. My pleasure.